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Transforming ChatGPT into Your Personal Conversationalist - James Feldman - S4E3

February 03, 2024 Coach Mikki Season 4 Episode 5
Coach Mikki and Friends
Transforming ChatGPT into Your Personal Conversationalist - James Feldman - S4E3
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Discover the unexpected ways AI is revolutionizing the business world as we chat with James Feldman from Shift Happens. Peek into the future where AI amplifies our decision-making prowess and efficiency, far beyond the fear of job replacement. James sheds light on how this technological marvel is not just a tool, but a partner, offering insights into how businesses can leverage AI's analytical capabilities to boost growth and refine strategy. It's an eye-opener that proves AI is the silent powerhouse behind smarter business moves, not just a cold, calculating machine.

Embark on a journey through the marketing galaxy with an AI concierge at the helm. I recount my experiences deploying AI to navigate the complexities of market research and content creation, ensuring that every marketing challenge is met with precision and innovation. We reveal how framing the right questions to AI can unlock targeted insights, acting as a compass for authors and businesses aiming to hit their marks. The discussion transcends typical marketing talk, offering a practical guide to harnessing AI for anyone looking to leave a lasting impact in their industry.

Finally, witness the transformation of ChatGPT into a personalized conversationalist. I share anecdotes on how giving AI a persona can enrich interaction, making exchanges more intuitive and results more bespoke. You'll hear how tweaking ChatGPT's settings to your preferences can turn it into an efficient, thought-provoking sidekick that echoes the wisdom of bygone eras. Plus, we touch on AI's surprising personal perks, from culinary creativity to mending familial bonds, proving that AI's contributions extend well beyond the office desk. Join us for these stories and more, as we unveil the many dimensions of AI's influence on our professional and personal lives.

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Speaker 1:

Hey, I'm Coach Mickey and I'm so glad that you've joined me and if this is your first time joining me, come on in and make yourself comfortable, and for those of you that join me on a regular basis, I am so glad that you do. Thank you so much always for reaching out to our guests that usually leave you with something and connecting with them, and for your comments, your questions and your suggestions, because I know a lot of you come back to me and you have got all these questions in regard to some of the guests that I've had on and, again, as you know, all of their information is always embedded into the podcast, so please contact them directly. I'm really excited about today's guest and, to be honest with you, I just met him yesterday and he was kind enough to come on and be part of this podcast and he is going to answer some of the most recent questions that we are having at this time with technology and what's going on. But I'm going to tell you a little bit about him first and then we're going to jump right in. My guest today is part of Shift Happens. He is the speaker of Shift Happens and he is so much fun because he started out early in life, in high school, actually working as a photographer with his local newspaper, and then he found a market for his photography skills by making 35 millimeter slide presentations for those of you that can remember that time frame and learning from other speakers. He crafted his presentation skills when he started to make formal presentations about how to distinguish between rewards and recognitions. Soon he provided his recognition rewards and presentation skills to McDonald's, general Tires, microsoft, marriott, mary Kay Cosmetics, hyatt, disney, the Lisses of Maya Long. His company, which is James Feldman Associates, has also served as Toyota, wrigley, greyhound, nissan and again, his Lisses of Maya Long. He is a pioneer of creating the loyalty program and many, many other things. And again, you guys know his information will be a bit of the podcast, but while he is here today, I'm excited because we are going to talk about AI, ai, and that is just the ongoing new thing that's happening right now. So thank you for being with us today and I'm so excited to have you. James Feldman, how are you? Absolutely my pleasure. So yeah, let's just jump right in. And prior to coming on air, you had said the biggest question is is AI going to replace me?

Speaker 2:

So the answer to that is no. The answer to that is too prompt. There are certainly jobs out there that will be placed by progress, no matter what it is. However, the real fear that someone should have is not that AI is going to replace you, but that someone that's using AI is going to replace you because it's leveled the playing field. It has taken all of the big advantages that companies had, and basically, two things in our lifetime have been ubiquitous. One has been COVID. Covid impacted the world. They didn't see it coming, we weren't prepared for it and it knocked us on our proverbial. You know what? Ai is a hundred or a thousand times more disruptive than COVID, and that's what people should be aware of and concerned about, because it's here to stay and everything that we do moving forward will be impacted by it one way or the other.

Speaker 1:

That is so true. I am finding even for myself, whether it's with my podcast or my YouTube channel and other things that I'm working with. I use AI a lot and I'm learning every single day something different. Whereas I used to have to take time to do it myself, or it would take me even maybe a couple of days, where now I'm just doing it in like 20 minutes to an hour and, like you said, it's progressing and moving forward very fast, but that learning seems to be the most important thing. So what would you say to someone who is just looking at AI or has never even taken a look at it?

Speaker 2:

The first thing about AI is what is keeping you awake at night? Is it possible to grow your business with less hustle? Are you having trouble writing the great American novel? Are you having difficulty in decision making? And over the years, I crafted a discovery and I refer to it as think inside the box, not outside the box. If you use the metaphor of the box and you're outside the box, you have no idea what's inside the box. If you have no idea what's inside the box, how can you possibly come up with a solution? Because you don't even know what the problem is. What AI does is it not only takes you inside the box, it recreates the box and it gives you enhanced decision making because it enables more informed decisions, because it can analyze things like trends, it can generate reports, it can align with your expertise, it can give you thoughts and opinions because it has no emotion and in doing so, you've got the most valuable assistant that you could ever hire in your entire life, that speaks 39 languages, that has every college degree, that can take financials, can take recipes, can take the Bible, can take whatever it is that you want to talk about and give you an opinion. However and I say this over and over trust but verify, because everything coming through AI is basically based on what it finds on the Internet, and we all know that there's stuff on the Internet that's not true. So trust but verify with any AI that you're doing.

Speaker 1:

Now you have got a program that you do and I know you do quite a bit of speaking engagements and I know you walk into other corporations and you help them find their strategy and customize and also target what their industry is. How have you used what you're doing, along with AI, to be able to collaborate and create this shift that's happening right now?

Speaker 2:

So I liken this to going to Costco's. When you go to Costco's, you know two things for sure there's a hot dog for $1.50, and there's a chicken for $4.95. And yet somehow we walk out with our shopping cart with a couple hundred dollars worth of stuff. That's the problem with AI and ChatGPT. You got to pick a lane. You got to make sure that you're going in with a laser focus, because there's so many bright, shiny pennies out there that you start to fill up your shopping cart and you get overwhelmed. And so I tell everybody to do three things. Number one start with the free version of ChatGPT. That was based on information from 2020 to an older, but it's free and you can play with it all day long and you can ask it to help you with a decision, help you with meal planning, help you with marketing, with branding, routine tasks, thinking differently about a letter that you needed to write, or doing your resume, or learning about gourmet cooking. It's all there because it's stuff from 2022 back. If, on the other hand, you're in business and you need to have real world information that's tied to the internet, then you need to pay the whopping $20 to ChatGPT and get version four. Now somebody will say, oh gee, jim, $20. Well, if you can't afford to hire an assistant for $20, then you probably shouldn't be in business in the first place. But nevertheless, there are dozens of competitors to ChatGPT that are free and they're all trying to grab a share of this market. The reason I suggest ChatGPT is they have 200 million users. If you've got 200 million people using this and ChatGPT is constantly evolving to be better then why not get on that train and see where it's going? And again it's $20. And if it doesn't work for you, then don't pay next month $20 and you're done and go find something else. But I don't want somebody to say well, what about Jasper or Bing or Watson? They're all out there. They're all doing various things that are similar. But I think if we look behind the curtain, a lot of them are using ChatGPT technology. They're just doing it a little differently.

Speaker 1:

So a lot of this things that are happening with ChatGPT, I know, is helping with a lot of presentations and marketing and it's allowing you to expand, I guess, on a broader spectrum. To bring all of that easier onto your computer than having to go out and hire a marketing team, how would you say that a marketing team, especially somebody in a corporation, could utilize this to help them enhance their marketing without being replaced?

Speaker 2:

If you were able to get an assistant that had a PhD from Harvard and Yale and had written hundreds of books on marketing, and you could hire that person for $20 a month, why wouldn't?

Speaker 1:

you do that. That's true. That's true. So people need to see this more as a compliment to what they're doing and not a replacement, like the question we asked in the beginning. That's, I think, what a lot of people's fear is is they're thinking that they're going to be replaced, instead of using that to their advantage.

Speaker 2:

It's like learning about using tools. In a toolbox. You wouldn't pick up a hammer to screw in a screw, but you had to have the hammer because it may be when you go to screw in the screw, it turns out to be a nail. That's what the toolbox is all about. When you talk about marketing and that's an area of my expertise and let me kind of put a parentheses around expertise, because chat, gpt and AI is evolving so quickly I think the term expertise is no longer applicable. I think the term is experienced or coached, and so I've rebranded myself as the AI concierge, because you go to a concierge and you say, listen, I've got a problem or a need and he or she has resources. And that's what AI is. Because, let's say, you're talking about marketing per se. Let's break it down. Is it market research? Is it content creation? Is it digital marketing and SEO? Is it customer engagement and personalization? Is it campaign analysis and feedback? Is it training and team development? I could go on and on, because marketing has so many prongs to it. You need to say what's the end result. So if I was saying to you and your audience how do you best use it, I would start at one side of the spectrum and say how do I use AI tools to capture all the interactions? Then how am I going to understand those interactions with AI and AI tools and how is that going to drive, in my case, revenue outcomes, which would include productivity, predictability, growth, et cetera? So you can see, something as simple as a question about how do you use it in marketing already has become complicated by the very nature of what is it that you're trying to market and what are the results you're trying to achieve.

Speaker 1:

Well, having that right at your fingertips seems like it saves a lot of time, because a lot of times we go have to do so much due diligence and demographic work, especially when it comes to marketing, depending on the product. So having that right here should actually expedite what you're doing to bring it to market at a faster rate than having to take all that time prior to it, where I can see how it would work to your advantage.

Speaker 2:

So let me give your listeners the aha for today. One of them Perplexityai. Perplexityai Is everything that you've ever wanted in a research tool for free. You can ask it anything, anything, but the key to perplexity is that it also gives you references and citations so that you can go and see oh, this article came from Inc, or this observation came from Forbes, or this came from the New York Times. And so they have partnered up with Co-Pilot, which is part of Microsoft, and in doing so you got yourself something, and their tagline is where knowledge begins. And when you put that in and you hit, go, stand back and be overwhelmed and say, omg, in literally one minute, I've got so many resources and suggestions that I now have become much more knowledgeable on again capturing the interactions and driving the revenue outcomes.

Speaker 1:

Wow, that's it. I'm kind of speechless because, again, there is so many facets to AI and you and I were speaking the other day or yesterday, I should say and you were telling me something I wasn't even aware of and I use Zoom all the time I'm like I didn't even know that was there. And there's so many elements and facets to AI and I think that's where people become overwhelmed, especially if they don't know where to start and they're like well, okay, so I'm an author and I want to get my book out there, and they're like they've done so much of the basic information, such as an outline, writing the book and then, you know, getting it published and doing that. Now, granted, we've been able to evolve where we don't have to go to publishers so much anymore. We can do a lot of it independently. But someone who doesn't have any idea about AI and where to even start, what would you say to that person who goes I don't even know what to do because it's overwhelming to me?

Speaker 2:

I would do what pilots do when they get in a plane they have already been told they're going to go from point A to point B. The pilot then starts to plot a course. If you can define the end result first, then you can create the path to get there. If you go in and say to chat, gpt or any other AI tool, I don't know where to start. It doesn't know how to help you.

Speaker 1:

Isn't it like life to begin with, and you go to?

Speaker 2:

your friends and you go.

Speaker 1:

I want to do this, but I don't know where to start. I don't know where to start.

Speaker 2:

I mean, you know, it's like hey, I want to lose weight. It's really simple Don't eat. I want to grow more hair?

Speaker 1:

Well, that's not going to happen next, one of the things I have learned about AI is that if you ask it the right question and sometimes you have to format that question a little bit different, because I'll ask it a question when I'm doing something, I'll ask it the right question when I'm doing some research or I'm doing something, but that's not the answer I wanted. And then I'm like, okay, well, that's because I didn't ask it the right question. And sometimes it's just simple as knowing what to ask and be very precise. If you're saying I would like to see, I don't know, use an example, show me or explain to me a red flower, it's like well, what red flower? There's different questions. You have to ask to get the appropriate answers. Do you find there's any format that you could use in regards to that for someone who is looking for specific information?

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. Here's your next ah-ha Name chat GPT. Make it a person. In my case, I initially named mine Boris. Why? Because I grew up with a cartoon called Rocky and Bullwinkle and Boris was the brains and Natasha was the muscle. Right, yes, you're right, you're right. Everybody said Feldman, who's Boris? I got tired of answering who Boris was because I realized that I was older than most of the people I was talking to. So I renamed my assistant Mr Spock. Guess what? Nobody asked me who Mr Spock is. What was Mr Spock? Mr Spock was logical. Mr Spock was a resource. But Mr Spock would constantly say you're not asking me the right question. So now I pretend that Mr Spock is sitting next to me and I say to Mr Spock tell me about a red flower. What's he going to say? What kind of flower, what color? Where do you want? What do you want to do with it? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Right, once you have personalized and gotten away from the crystal ball or the terminator image or whatever you got about ChatGPT and you make it a person that you're talking to, then your question, which are called prompts, become much more fluent. Because ChatGPT had so many people having issues. Chatgpt now says ask me to help you with the prompt. So you say I want to talk about red flowers and it will come back and it will ask you 10 things about red flowers. Now here's your next aha, if you're using ChatGPT, which I believe you mentioned you have used, correct? Yes, have you set up your persona in ChatGPT? And the answer is probably not Correct?

Speaker 1:

Okay, oh, no, falling into the category you are.

Speaker 2:

You are because what ChatGPT and AI do so poorly is train people on how to use it. There is no training manual. It's the same training manual you get when you have children.

Speaker 1:

There isn't one.

Speaker 2:

There isn't one. Well, how do you learn? Well, you go talk to other people and say, hey, I'm having this problem, or what did you do with this three-year-old, or what happens, if you know? And we all train one another. And so the first thing to do with ChatGPT is on the left side there's a black border and at the very bottom of the black border is your name, however you have logged it in, and when you click on it it opens up my plan, my GBTs, my custom instructions, my settings and beta. And when you click on custom instructions, two questions pop up. First one what would you like ChatGPT to know about you to provide better responses? Omg, mr Spock wants to know who Jim Thelman is. It gives you 1500 characters and if you don't know enough about yourself, ask ChatGPT to help you write it, and then you put it in and answer that question. The good news is you can change this as many times as you want. So if it's not doing what you want and answering it, then you go back and you refine it. The second question it says how would you like ChatGPT to respond? So let me tell you some of my things that I said to Mr Spock. Remember. I've identified it. Please don't waste my time telling me that you are AI. Offer creative, innovative and inside the box solutions. Refer to resources and citations. Offer AI tools and ChatGPT prompts that support that response. Be very precise and pleat. Organize data clearly using bullet points or a table. And if you don't understand, then ask me questions to deliver the best results. And it goes on and on and on. Now, when I say to Mr Spock I need a red flower, mr Spock immediately goes hold on I need more information and doesn't even go off and start looking for it until I have become more specific in helping him to understand what I really want.

Speaker 1:

It seems so simple. It really does and when you ask it, like I said, the right questions and you know the direction you want to go and have the ability to implement it and then get back what you're looking for and it does. It seems so simple. I think the problem I didn't say problem, I should say challenge that we have, just as human beings, is a lot of times we don't know exactly what we want. So AI kind of gives you the right questions to be able to get that information out of you, to move you forward, whereas it's taken us longer to decide. Well, this is now right in front of you, going well, what do you want to know? And three or four questions that you have to answer and, as human nature and as people, you can't say I don't know. And if you do, you've got another set of questions to be able to ask you to get it out of you. So it sounds like AI has actually simplified or helped what we usually don't have the opportunity to answer because we're not clear on our direction.

Speaker 2:

There are always things that, as a young child, we forget. I've always said to my clients what would your mother tell you? Because somehow mothers were always the smartest people on the planet at the time, because they grew up talking to other mothers, they didn't do it alone. I have a set of questions that I ask every single day for every single thing I'm doing, and it's really simple. I ask what if, what's next, what's possible and why not? And I put that into my prompts and I get some answers. Blow me away because I go, wow, I never thought of that before and I think I've been down the what if, what's next? Road so many times. I've got all the answers, but the truth is the road is changing and where I may have taken a left turn, I should have taken a right turn. So I come away with things that basically say what I refer to as Jim's ahas Beware of distractions disguised as opportunities. And the same thing happens with chat, gpt. Go wow, this is really cool. I'm going to use monkey, learn to do text analysis, using machine learning to extract value from raw, from raw text. And I put it in the first time and I go over my pay grade. I mean, yeah, it's really great, I'm done. So then I said, instead of giving me all this analysis, I'm a visual person. What do I use to take all that data like a spreadsheet and do a graph or a chart? And it said try, crayon, c R A Y O N, and crayon analyzes digital footprints to provide visual information. Oh, and I'm G. I've now got something I understand, because it's a pie chart or it's a graph or something, instead of all of this analytical information which may be valuable to a rocket scientist but is not valuable to me. So one of my favorite stories is a fellow called me up and he says Listen, I'm thinking of taking your course. I'm not sure if I want to do this or not. I said what do you do? He says I'm a rocket scientist. I said no, seriously, what do you do? He goes no, I work for NASA. I was a rocket. And I said Okay, we're done. He said what do you mean? I said I can't help you. I'm not a rocket scientist, I'm just a peddler, I'm just a marketer, I'm just to speak. He says Well, he says that's why I'm coming to you. I need stuff to simplify. And he started talking about the rings around one of the planets. And you know blah, blah, blah. And I said hey, I can't do you know what, let's go in and let's figure it out. And within 10 minutes I was having a chat GPT moment for him that was blowing him away, I will tell you. I didn't understand 85% of what it was saying, but he did, including the fact that I said Can you give him the scientific formulas that will help him in his research? And the next thing we know, chat GPT is spit out these formulas Once again. Did I have a clue when I was reading? Not on your life. Could he have gotten there without me? Probably not, which is why I've once again come up with this concept of concierge, because I have figured out how to connect the dots. I often don't know what to do with the results.

Speaker 1:

So if anybody wants to reach out to you and they need your help because you have got a plethora of information and the companies you've worked with and your journey along the way and what you've done has just been absolutely incredible. And again, the way you think and how you adapt to like you said in your bio, you kind of adapt to everybody else's language and obviously that story with the rocket scientists from there to someone who is, I don't know, has another company of a different caliber how can they reach you and what can you do for them?

Speaker 2:

So I basically help people solve problems by revitalizing, by reinvigorating, by reimagining their future at the innovation of the intersection I'm sorry of innovation, customer engagement and performance management using AI tools. Now that may sound like a lot, so it's very simple. I deliver certainty in an uncertain world.

Speaker 1:

And then how can they reach you? What's the best way for them to reach you?

Speaker 2:

J Feldman at ShiftHappenscom.

Speaker 1:

Okay, and for you guys it is shifthappenscom, because what they're hearing and why I need to spell might be two different things.

Speaker 2:

Now, if any of your people are going to be in Southern California or happen to live there, I'm actually doing a live event next Thursday at the Santa Anita racetrack. That's where the event is taking place, and I'll give you an easy way to check it out if you're interested, please. So let me start this with. We've all seen long URLs and it's very hard to remember them, so what I have done is I found a link shortener that allows me to customize it. So anytime, anytime I give anybody a link, it starts off the same way JFA. Name of my company, james Feldman, socials. Jfatips T like Tom I, p like Paul S. So JFAtips forward slash, and then that's the only thing that changes. So in this case, it's JFAtips forward slash, register, and then we'll take you to this event where you can register.

Speaker 1:

That's awesome, that is great. I mean you have, yeah, wow.

Speaker 2:

See what happens then. Is I branded myself. I've made it simple for people to understand, and now they start to collect tips right, yeah. No, that's great. Let me give your audience another one Once again JFAtips, forward slash, and this one's pretty easy AI tools to use. So AI T are all capitalized. I don't think it makes a difference, but to be safe, it's capital A, capital I, capital T, lowercase O-O-L-S, capital T for two, lowercase O, capital U for you. So AI tools to use. And when you go there it takes you to my YouTube channel, and on the YouTube channel I've posted dozens of five-minute videos and every one of them are things like how should accountants use AI, how should small businesses UI use AI, et cetera, and they're all six minutes or less and very focused.

Speaker 1:

That's great. That is great. I mean, like I said, ai is so evolving every single day that you can constantly keep learning and learning and learning, and there's something out there for everyone. There really is no matter what your business is, there is something out there for everyone, and I love the fact that you have taken your knowledge and your information and you've been able to guide people to use AI and do it to implement into their business and help them succeed. That's wonderful. It really is, jim. It really is.

Speaker 2:

Let me tell you two very short stories that will pivot people's thinking. Every Sunday there's some people in the building get together and we go watch a movie or whatever and just have a potluck. So I get a phone call and the woman who's hosting it says listen, two people are coming and they are vegetarians and vegans. Oh geez, I didn't have a clue. I went into chat GPPT and I said give me recipes for recipes that I can serve for vegans that are vegetarian. Now give me the shopping list. Now tell me how to make this stuff taste good. And I brought it along with a regular you know serving for everybody else. And this woman who's got the plate, she looks at me and she goes I thought you said you didn't know how to cook vegetarian vegan. I go nope, she goes. The single best meal I have ever eaten in my life, wow. Number two woman comes up to me after presentation. She goes listen, I get it. I understand it. I'm not interested in it. I got bigger problems right now. She goes today is my birthday and I'm not hearing from my daughter. And I said I don't know that chat GPPT can fix that. She goes no, you don't understand. We have been estranged from each other for 25 years and I thought, because this was such a big birthday for me, she would reach out to me. But she didn't. And I'm just disappointed. And I said when's the last time you talked to her? No, 20, 25 years. I said have you written her letter? I've sat down to write this letter hundreds of times. I can't do it. I said let you and I have chat. Gppt help you. Within 10 minutes we wrote a letter that this woman was in tears because it had so captured what she wanted to say to her daughter but was unable to do so. And I said OK, now comes the big deal. Are you willing to send it? She sent it. The daughter called her upon receipt and they set up a meeting and they're now back together.

Speaker 1:

Wow.

Speaker 2:

Wow, that's a wow. That's using the tool for something that you might not have thought of. Now remember, before we go, mr Spock. Mr Spock, if you ever watched Star Trek, mr Spock was often asked for things you know he would say insufficient facts always invite dangers. Space, the vinyl frontier. Once you've eliminated the impossible, whatever remains must be the truth, and on and on, and on. And so when you think about Mr Spock and creating your own language, it's a person, one of my favorites ever. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of a few. In the original series he said change is the essential process of all existence. You want to have some fun. Go into chat, gpt and say what would Mr Spock say today about politics, about religion, about hunger, about bringing the earth, etc. And watch what happens. And that's how you start to get comfortable using chat, gpt and AI tools. Go into perplexity, which I mentioned before, and say I want to learn about XYZ and watch what it does, because it is scrubbing it, to find out all those things that make you more mindful and will probably prompt you to want to learn more. And then you start to remember. You know certain things, and mine is don't let what you think you know prevent you from learning what you need to know.

Speaker 1:

Say that again. That was very profound.

Speaker 2:

That is mine and not Mr Spock's.

Speaker 1:

Yes, please share that again. That was very profound.

Speaker 2:

Don't let what you think you know prevent you from learning what you need to know.

Speaker 1:

You have been absolutely amazing. I have loved having you on as my guest. I have learned so much. Myself and, I'm sure, my circle of friends, which I call my listeners, my circle of friends have learned so many things about this Because, again, this is just priceless information, especially if you're not aware or know how to even start with AI, and I really, really hope those of you that are in the area have the ability and the chance to go and see James Feldman. I really do, I really hope you guys can do that, because you would really get a lot out of his program and what he has to offer. And for those of you that are listening globally obviously you're not in the California area please reach out and to hand personally you know if you're looking for something for your business, but also check out his YouTube channel and, again, all that will be embedded into the podcast. Thank you so much for being with me. I could sit for hours and just have conversations with you and talk and pick your brain and, again, I have learned so much from you, james. I really do appreciate you.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much. I am happy to come back any time you'll have me.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I will. I definitely want you to come back because I know, as we evolve here with AI, you're going to at some point. I know we're going to talk to each other and I know you're going to have so much more. I guess that it's always evolving and it's growing and having someone like you who kind of has the guide to do it, you know, is definitely a gift. So I appreciate you.

Speaker 2:

Thank you. Thank you so much.

Speaker 1:

All right, you guys, until next time. I appreciate you. I'm so glad that you took the opportunity to join us and remember the most courageous thing you can do is be yourself. I'll look forward to seeing you on the next episode. Until then, see ya.

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